Poster Session Summary
Beverly Kenney, Waters
Larry M. Mallis, Wyeth-Ayerst Research
Michael McBrien, Advanced Chemistry Development Discovery ADME Technology
All large and midsize pharma have programs that have ramped in the
past 3-5 years. Current goal is to kill compounds only if very early
and primarily to build desirable properties into potential leads.
Analyses are still underway to generate better in-silico methods.
In-silico will never replace analysis totally, just reduce numbers
from 1000's/week to 100's/week. While molecule is still on paper,
in-silico can provide solubility, logP, pKa, permeability, potential
for metabolism and toxicity.
LC/MS is still primary analytical method but throughput is a concern
so analysts are looking to plate reader type assays (fluorescence).
Issues remain with sensitivity and specificity outside of MS.
Staggered elution zone systems, dual column on-line SPE, using
serial or parallel extraction columns are main methods of increasing
LCMS throughput.
Chromatography Future
Need higher throughput but without loss of selectivity and
sensitivity. Fast gradient elution takes advantage of higher peak
capacity and speed so everyone wants to run at higher flow rates.
Monolith columns enable that. Discovery is embracing those columns.
However, solvent consumption at ˜6 ml/min is a concern so demand
for 1 and 2 mm columns is huge but Merck is having a hard time
developing smaller ID's than 4.6 mm. Word was it would be more than
one year until the columns are available.
Existing LC systems (flows up to 5 or 10 ml/min) would benefit from
higher backpressure spec. (˜8000 psi).
Autosampler speed and carryover still are still primary detractors
to HT. Staggered elution zone systems, dual column on-line SPE,
using serial or parallel extraction columns are main methods of
increasing LCMS throughput.
Plasma Sample Preparation
This discussion centered around two posters which described the
on-line extraction of small proteins or peptides from plasma
samples. This is an interesting topic in that the standard
solid-phase extraction methodology involves removal of the plasma
proteins and salts prior to eluting the organic compound of
interest. In this instance the organic of interest is a protein and
not an easy task. The consensus was that no really good methods
exists with the exception of that which was presented during the
poster session. There was a suggestion that direct injection of the
plasma on-column using MS/MS is a reasonable alternative given the
inevitable fact that the column will eventually clog.
Predictive Pharmaceutical Profiling
A discussion that centered around the comparison of in-vitro
predictability vs. in-vivo observations was initiated by a poster
which presented in-vitro data which could be misinterpreted. This
poster suggested that data suggesting CYP450 3A4 oxidation was
actually to be attributed to a little known 1A2 oxidation. The
question was therefore asked as to whether Predictive Profiles were
in fact very predictive of in-vivo observations. In the end, a
consensus was reached that while in many cases the actual in-vitro
data might not match in-vivo assays the profiles were still a very
good means by which a series of compounds could be evaluated
relative to another series or within the series being analyzed. In
this era of combinatorial and parallel synthesis, these profiles
still give the scientist a way to evaluate the potential
"drugability" of a series of compounds early in discovery.
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